Kevin Kelly has been on the forefront of technology journalism for decades. He cofounded and edited wired magazine, wrote numerous books about the future of technology, and is an unwavering optimist and staunch believer in the long term view of progress. In this episode, Kevin and Chuck sit down to discuss the evolution of AI, fostering long term thinking, the mathematics of optimism and why we should be hopeful about our capacity to solve big problems with even bigger solutions.

Reference links from the episode:

The Long Now Foundation: https://longnow.org/

Kevin Kelly: https://kk.org/